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Avoiding scammers

Follow these rules to reduce risk of being caught out by the many scammers that operate online these days...

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Avoiding scammers

Postby admin » 06 Jun 2013 20:46

AVOID SCAMMERS

Our Top Tips When Buying Online

Most important rules of ALL

Buy/sell locally with people you can meet in person and avoid 99% of scam attempts (always meet in a safe place, on common ground if possible).
Remember, scammers practise on the internet daily, but if you exercise some common sense you can avoid any problems.
If an asking price or deal seems too good to be true then usually that is the case.
Please note, PayPal offers no protection to sellers in regards to any item that is collected in person (where proof of delivery isn't available). This is why many scammers will use their own 'agent' to collect your wheels (you then realise that their payment method is fraudulent by which time your wheels have gone and you have no legitimate proof of sale). PayPal only accepts proof of delivery in the form of reputable shipping/courier company's tracking page.
Avoiding Scammers

Never pay for a set of wheels without inspecting them first (or at least having a friend local inspect them for you)
We always recommend you pay for the wheels on collection or get a friend local to said wheels do this on your behalf
If you don't live near to the wheels, then why not meet the person half way (but always in a safe, public environment) like a car show?
If an item you see for sale on The Wheel Sanctuary is being offered at a far cheaper price then ask yourself why. If an item looks too good to be true, then it probably is.
Beware
Do not include your contact number or email in the advert. Always make contact via PM to be sure you are dealing with a registered member and you have written record of all correspondence.
Never wire funds using Western Union, Moneygram or any other wire service - most scammers operate using these methods
Fake bankers drafts or cashier's cheques (money orders) are very common these days. Banks may cash them but if discovered to be fake then the banks will hold you responsible.
Do not give out bank details under any circumstances. We always recommend you exchange goods in person, but if transferring the money then use a safe service such as PayPal.
The Wheel Sanctuary (or Wheel-Whores.com) is not involved in any transaction, we do not handle payments, guarantee transactions, offer buyer protections or seller certification. Just because somebody is a registered member doesn't guarantee they are not a scammer.
Recognising Scammers (see examples of scams below)

Common scams will usually include one or more of the following lines;

Somebody enquiring from somewhere far away (usually a foreign country)
A reason why they can't meet you in person before a transaction is made
Some for of Western Union, banker's draft, money gram, cashier's cheque, money order, shipping or a guarantee of some sort
Often scammers will use bad grammar or unusual terminology so watch out for these trademark signs
Somebody buying wheels as a present or on behalf of somebody else
Protect your Computer (this may sound obvious, but when did you last check the following?)

Always ensure your security software is up-to-date, check your anti-virus protection and anti-spyware software, plus a firewall
Block spam emails and use an up-to-date web browser
Encrypt your wireless network in order to protect against freeloaders and eavesdroppers
Set a secure password for your wifi connection using a solid password made up of letters and number
Examples of Scams (Please see our Forum for details of any recent scam attempts and add any you may have received)

The below emails are actual messages sent to members by potential scammers. Unfortunately many of these approaches are used widely and commonly across the internet. If you google the shippers name you will usually find other scams linked with that address etc.

Hello Laura,
I have made the payments out to you and PayPal emailed me confirming this... So please check your PayPal email address (*******@******) for the PayPal payment confirmation email. PayPal said that they would be holding the money i sent because of the excess payments that i made which was the money for pick up, i will need you to proceed and Wire the excess which is £200 to my pick up agent to enable them make a booking for the picked up of the item.Remember that you will wire the agent fee to them via western union Money transfer as that is there method of payment.

So please do send the £200 through western union money transfer and use the remaining change of £50 as western union charges.You can easily Walk to the local post office or any outlet around you.After you have sent the money please get back to me asap with the western union details, the mtcn number which you will be given by western union after you have sent the money as well as the sender's name and address so i can forward it back to PayPal for your money to be put through or you can email it to PayPal directly,that is alright as well.

Here is my pick up agent's info that you will need to send the money to through western union money transfer:

Jamiu Momodu
159 Duchess Ct
Jamestown,NC.27282
USA.

I will need the address where the item will be picked up,as my pick up agent will contact you to book a pick up time after they have received payments but they will have to book a time that is convenient for you.I will be glad you send the money out to the agent information above and get back to me with the western union details towards smooth and fast accreditation of your funds (£400.00 GBP) into your PayPal personal account soon.

Best Regards,
Sarah.

From randybrash101@gmail.com

Hello, I just came across your AD and I'll like to know the following questions regarding the wheels...

Q#1. How long have you owned them?

Q#2. How much is the lowest price you would take for them?

Q#3. Do you accept PayPal as a mode of payment?

I'll like to have the response to these questions as soon as possible...

Thank you, Regards

Randy Brash

BBS RA 6 & 7x15

hello seller
i just went through the profile of your wheel and i think i love them. please i want you to get back to me as soon as possible for proper negotiation of the price because i want to buy it.. please get back to me as fast as you can

Hello,Thank you for your response...My name is Adams James,I am a business tycoon and am currently out of town at the moment. I am buying the item as a surprise gift for my son and the price is fine with me.I can only pay through PayPal as I don't have access to my bank account online/internet banking, but I have my bank account attached to my PayPal account and this is why I insisted on paying you through PayPal. So please get back to me with your PayPal invoice or PayPal email address,phone number and your name.... so I can proceed with the payment and after I have made the payment, I have a pick up agent that will come around for pick up of the item from your location.Hope to read from you with the requested payment details asap...Thank You,Regards,Adams.

Thank you for your response...My name is Steven Larry,I am a pilot and am currently out country at the moment. I am buying the wheels as a gift for my daddy and the price is fine with me.I can only pay through PayPal as I don't have access to my bank account online/internet banking, but I have my bank account attached to my PayPal account and this is why I insisted on paying you through PayPal. So please get back to me with your PayPal invoice or PayPal email address,phone number and your name.... so I can proceed with the payment and after I have made the payment, I have a pick up agent that will come around for pick up of the item from your location.Hope to read from you with the requested payment details asap...

Hello,
Thank you for your response...My name is Adams James,I am an oceanographer and am currently on sea at the moment. I am buying the wheels as gift for my dad and the price is fine with me.I can only pay through PayPal as I don't have access to my bank account online/internet banking, but I have my bank account attached to my PayPal account and this is why I insisted on paying you through PayPal. So please get back to me with your PayPal invoice or PayPal email address,phone number and your name.... so I can proceed with the payment and after I have made the payment, I have a pick up agent that will come around for pick up of the item from your location.Hope to read from you with the requested payment details asap....

Thank You,
Regards,Adams.

Hello Seller,
Is this wheels still up for sale? If yes,kindly get back to me with your final asking price.
Cheers,Sarah.

Hello,
Thank you for your response...My name is Sarah Adams,I am an oceanographer and am currently on sea at the moment. I am buying the wheels for my husband and the asking price sound good to me.I can only pay through PayPal only. So kindly get back to me with your PayPal invoice or PayPal email address,phone number and your name.... so I can proceed with the payment and after I have made the payment, I have a pick up agent that will come around for pick up of the item from your location.

Hope to read from you with the requested payment details asap....

Cheers,
Sarah.

Hi,
Thank you for your response...My name is Adams James,I am currently out of town at the moment. I am buying the wheels for my twins brother and the asking price sounds good to me.I can only pay through PayPal only. So kindly get back to me with your PayPal invoice or PayPal email address,phone number and your name.... so I can proceed with the payment and after I have made the payment, I have a pick up agent that will come around for pick up of the item from your location.

Hope to read from you with the requested payment details asap....

Regards,
James.
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